The Wall

[Savy]

I definitely did not say that. I'm merely refuting your claim that cheap labor is a boon to border economies. Redistribution doesn't seem like much of a benefit either.

If it happens it is of benefit to someone. Who is this? If you think mexican workers then just lol why would anyone let this type of thing happen just to benefit some mexicans.

Seriously, just stop. Do you know what the penalty is for drug possession in Saudi Arabia? Are you telling me that it's not a deterrent at all?

Amongst who? The people that do large quantities of drugs, definitely not because they get away with it. Just as they do in any area. Funnily enough chopping peoples hands off for stealing has long been proven to be ineffective at stopping that exact behaviour.

[BananaStand]

If it happens it is of benefit to someone. Who is this? If you think mexican workers then just lol why would anyone let this type of thing happen just to benefit some mexicans.

That's why there are laws against illegal immigration and hiring illegal workers. It doesn't help America. It only benefits those mexican workers. It's an exploitation. That's why it's wrong. Thats why it needs to be stopped. We have the laws, they just aren't being enforced.

You're absolutely right! LOL @ America for letting this happen.

Amongst who? The people that do large quantities of drugs, definitely not because they get away with it. Just as they do in any area. Funnily enough chopping peoples hands off for stealing has long been proven to be ineffective at stopping that exact behaviour.

We're getting away from my point now. The people doing large quantities of drugs in Saudi Arabia aren't doing cocaine, or heroin. In fact, the biggest drug epidemic is a crude amphetamine that is sort of a precursor to Ritalin.

Bringing cocaine to Saudi Arabia bears more risk than bringing that same cocaine to America. That means a higher cost to a Mexican cartel. Do you think the cartels really care about expanding their business in the middle east? Or will they send their product to America, on the path of least resistance.

Therefore, one could conclude, that creating more resistance will lead to less drugs flowing in to the country. If America buttons itself up better, more drugs will go to Brazil, or Argentina, or South Africa, or France, or wherever else it's cheapest and least risky.

[MadMojoMonkey]

That's why there are laws against illegal immigration and hiring illegal workers. It doesn't help America. It only benefits those mexican workers. It's an exploitation. That's why it's wrong. Thats why it needs to be stopped. We have the laws, they just aren't being enforced.

You're absolutely right! LOL @ America for letting this happen.

Surely you see that the American who hires the Mexican is helped by the cheaper labor cost.

[BananaStand]

Surely you see that the American who hires the Mexican is helped by the cheaper labor cost.

You mean the criminal American who hires....

But it doesn't stop there. I doubt that employer is collecting FICA taxes, and I also doubt that he's remitting the employer-portion of FICA taxes on his gross payroll. He's helped by way of an unfair advantage in the form of lower-costs, and less tax burden.

That hurts the honest businesses who play by the rules. It also hurts the citizens would benefit from those taxes being collected.

That's why this stuff is illegal man. C'mon

[Savy]

You mean the criminal American who hires....

But it doesn't stop there. I doubt that employer is collecting FICA taxes, and I also doubt that he's remitting the employer-portion of FICA taxes on his gross payroll. He's helped by way of an unfair advantage in the form of lower-costs, and less tax burden.

That hurts the honest businesses who play by the rules. It also hurts the citizens would benefit from those taxes being collected.

That's why this stuff is illegal man. C'mon

So you're for huge hikes in workers rights such as health benefits, minimum wage, etc?

[BananaStand]

So you're for huge hikes in workers rights such as health benefits, minimum wage, etc?

The word "rights" makes it a loaded question. I'm also not seeing how it's relevant to anything I said.

Rephrase please.

[Poopadoop]

So you're for huge hikes in workers rights such as health benefits, minimum wage, etc?

Don't play dumb bananananana. It's a clear manifestation of having 'legal' labour that employer's costs would rise.

[Savy]

Don't play dumb bananananana. It's a clear manifestation of having 'legal' labour that employer's costs would rise.

My reply is purposely as obtuse as the answer.

[BananaStand]

Don't play dumb bananananana. It's a clear manifestation of having 'legal' labour that employer's costs would rise.

I'm not playing dumb, I truly don't understand your point. It's certainly not news that criminal activity, when unpunished, will benefit the criminal perpetrators.

[Poopadoop]

It's also clear to me that restricting illegal immigrants is bad for business, and that Trump knows that. Maybe it's worth him politically to do that, but seems there is a clear relationship between restricting illegals and restricting cheap labour for business. A part of me thinks that for this reason the wall will never be built. But we shall see.