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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Otherwise it would appear that agnostic theists and agnostic atheists are at some sort of equal standing stalemate.
    They are kind of. It's a battle of moving pieces across a line. I'd say one side has a few assets that can't be beat, but it really is a nigh-stalemate war of attrition.

    Otherwise, one day we could discover or develop something that could win over everyone to one position in one fell swoop. And I just don't imagine that ever happening. Unless God wants to make himself Known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    They are kind of. It's a battle of moving pieces across a line. I'd say one side has a few assets that can't be beat, but it really is a nigh-stalemate war of attrition.

    Otherwise, one day we could discover or develop something that could win over everyone to one position in one fell swoop. And I just don't imagine that ever happening. Unless God wants to make himself Known.
    Well yes, it's a war of attrition, one where there will almost surely be no grand instant victory, but just because the idea of a godless existence won't prevail in some grand instantaneous way does not make it a stalemate. Like you said, either God could make himself known, or there could be a stalemate, or, what you left out, the humanist viewpoint could continue to spread until it is the predominant position.

    So, slowly but surely people can come around to reason and leave their fairy tales behind, or people cling to their nonsense despite increasing evidence for a natural world existing with no help from the supernatural. I don't see why you want to chalk this up as a stalemate. Seems akin to CNN giving equal air time to climatologists and climate-change deniers. These just aren't equal but opposing positions. It's slow progress, not a stalemate.

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