*** Official Putin Started Shootin' Thread ***

[Jack Sawyer]

Vast majority would. 18 year olds are generally idiots. Even the most bright among them.

No argument here. All the more reason to keep them away from dangerous weapons imo.

My argument is that BECAUSE they are idiots you teach them to become responsible adults in a non predatory way, while also having some national defense in case any neighboring country wants to get cute. It's not due to the fact that they are idiots then we should treat them as idiots and never teach them to become responsible adults, and therefore leaving them to be idiots ad infinitum.

Not everyone in mil training becomes John Rambo, or is Charlie Sheen in Hot Shots running out of bullets and then shooting people with chickens. You can become radar engineers, mechanics, cooks, etc. You get exposed to these things free of charge and get actual useful skills for the real adult life and get paid instead of being charged for this. Like opening cans, tieing knots, magnetic north, generally useful stuff.

Certainly. But if your plan is to go onto uni, then you either need significant savings or be prepared to take a loan then.

Yo go serve. You get money for serving. You don't have to get into the loan game, because you understand that you work and get money. Also, ideally, you also saved up by understanding how to deal with money because you had some financial literacy training. Not to mention food and shelter is taken care of free of charge in the military, which is a huge plus as well. Financial literacy should also be something universally taught at a very young age.

Then you go to the Uni if you want to. Then you go wait tables if you want to. Then you go under the bridge to smoke crack and meth if you want to. You were given a leg up in life and debt free while at it, you decide what to do with it, I can only hope you take correct choices, particularly hen seeing what real hardship looks like, and the fate of other people/places in the world you could come in contact with while serving.

It's about getting you out of your comfort zone, of parents bubble, of the "safe spaces" LOL , and being thrown into the real world, to see which skills are actually needed/desired, and letting you grow into adulthood without being burdened by instances who would love to have you enslaved. Universities lately have basically become safe spaces, full of fragile bitches who nowadays are trained that if they disagree with someone you have to block them.

Everything being solved by loans you just pad up those who give loans, and create a modern slave based work force in the process.

The idea is to get every young adult a leg up in life, without being burdened by the modern vultures who understand the inflection points on when exactly to get them to play ball at their most vulnerable.

You know that only a small percentage of the military is fighters, right?

It's almost entirely logistics and support groups - clerks and middle management types.

Sure, they all went though boot camp, and were trained how to properly use a gun or few types of guns. The vast majority of them will never see "front line" action. They will never be put in a position to kill or be killed.

150% correct. This is what the real world looks like.

Frankly, IMO, every human should be trained in self-defense including how to kill another human before they kill you, should that be their goal.

A bit too extreme but I see where you are coming from. People need to be taught responsibility and consequences of action.